1 Commander Shas'el @ 92 Pts
Hard-wired Target Lock; Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ 191 Pts
Team Leader; Crisis Battlesuit; Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [124] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ 191 Pts
Team Leader; Crisis Battlesuit; Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [124] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
1 Crisis Battlesuit @ 191 Pts
Team Leader; Crisis Battlesuit; Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
2 Crisis Battlesuit @ [124] Pts
Missile Pod; Plasma Rifle; Multi-Tracker
10 Kroot Carnivore Squad @ 112 Pts
Add Kroot Hounds; Kroot Rifle (x10)
7 Kroot Hounds @ [42] Pts
10 Kroot Carnivore Squad @ 112 Pts
Add Kroot Hounds; Kroot Rifle (x10)
7 Kroot Hounds @ [42] Pts
6 Fire Warrior @ 60 Pts
Pulse Rifle (x6)
8 Pathfinder @ 206 Pts
Markerlight (x8); Pulse Carbine (x8)
1 Devilfish @ [110] Pts
Burst Cannon; Smart Missile System; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Marker Beacon; Targeting Array
2 Piranha Light Skimmer @ 155 Pts
Fusion Blaster (x2); Gun Drones (x2); Disruption Pod (x2); Target Lock (x1); Targeting Array (x2)
2 Gun Drones @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Pulse Carbines
1 Broadside Battlesuit @ 170 Pts
Team Leader; Twin linked Railgun; Broadside Battlesuit; Smart Missile System; Hard-wired Target Lock; Advanced Stabilisation System
1 Broadside Battlesuit @ [80] Pts
Twin linked Railgun; Smart Missile System; Advanced Stabilisation System
1 Hammerhead Gunship @ 185 Pts
Railgun; Smart Missile System; Blacksun Filter; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Multi-Tracker; Target Lock; Targeting Array
1 Hammerhead Gunship @ 185 Pts
Railgun; Smart Missile System; Blacksun Filter; Disruption Pod; Landing Gear; Multi-Tracker; Target Lock; Targeting Array
Total Roster Cost: 1850
This list is a change from my 4th Ed list, which was discussed on Stelek's blog, sniper drones just don't get the job done, and with the prevalence of mech the extra rail guns are a must.
I also added a couple of BSF because I had the extra points and it seems like a decent way to use them with the first turn night fight in DoW setup. It may change in the future.
I also put team leaders into all of my crisis squads from the 4th Ed list in order to take advantage of multi wound shenanigans.
The firewarriors jack the pathfinders ride of course. KEEP THEM INSIDE THE DEVILFISH. Don't get greedy, it will cost you.
I took 17 total in my kroot squads because it pushes the casualty count to 5 in order to make them take a check on LD 7.
Remember: kroot are one of the best and cheapest utility units in the game, great for anti deepstrike, and outflank. Use them to discourage assault on the rest of your really squishy army. They can go to ground for a 2+ in woods. Awesome for holding objectives, and they can counter assault in a pinch.
Piranhas are great for tank busting if you can get them there, they are also really useful for slowing other armies down. Armour 11 on the front keeps bolters and the like from bringing them down and 2 can block a sizable section as a sacrificial unit to keep others back from the meat of the army.
Monday, March 30, 2009
Sunday, March 29, 2009
2 Command Bike Squads
1 Kor'sarro Khan @ 610 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Moonfang; Power Armour; Moondrakkan; Command Squad
1 Moondrakkan @ [40] Pts
Space Marine Bike; TL Boltgun
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Space Marine Captain @ 590 Pts
...in Power Armour; Command Squad
1 ...in Power Armour @ [180] Pts
Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Relic Blade (x1); Storm Shield (x1); Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
Total Roster Cost: 2000
I am debating whether or not to run two bike command squads. This is what the list would look like if I were to take both command squads. I took Khan because the last 20 points if I took a regular captain instead just goes to digital weapons on both captains. Hit and Run and Furious Charge for one of the squads seemed better to me.
Bolt Pistol; Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Moonfang; Power Armour; Moondrakkan; Command Squad
1 Moondrakkan @ [40] Pts
Space Marine Bike; TL Boltgun
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Space Marine Captain @ 590 Pts
...in Power Armour; Command Squad
1 ...in Power Armour @ [180] Pts
Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Relic Blade (x1); Storm Shield (x1); Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
Total Roster Cost: 2000
I am debating whether or not to run two bike command squads. This is what the list would look like if I were to take both command squads. I took Khan because the last 20 points if I took a regular captain instead just goes to digital weapons on both captains. Hit and Run and Furious Charge for one of the squads seemed better to me.
Saturday, March 28, 2009
Mercenary Painting
I paint for hire for some of the guys at my local store, and I tell you that since I started doing it painting my own armies has ground way down. I currently have the last of 1 army to finish up and then 2 other armies in the hopper.
Word to the wise, if you don't really like painting you probably shouldn't paint for hire. Also leave room between jobs to work on your own stuff or it will really discourage you.
Oh by the way, if someone paints your army for you, you really shouldn't take credit. REALLY. That just strikes me as really wrong. Why would you want to, you just look really stupid if someone finds out, and if someone does ask for advice on how you did something, you are doing them a disservice by feeding them some crap on how you did(n't do) it.
Word to the wise, if you don't really like painting you probably shouldn't paint for hire. Also leave room between jobs to work on your own stuff or it will really discourage you.
Oh by the way, if someone paints your army for you, you really shouldn't take credit. REALLY. That just strikes me as really wrong. Why would you want to, you just look really stupid if someone finds out, and if someone does ask for advice on how you did something, you are doing them a disservice by feeding them some crap on how you did(n't do) it.
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