Those Infernal Thunderfires

So this Thunderfire Cannon has been staring at me for about 8 months, and today it finally made it from little parts on my desk to taking it's glorious place with the other two.

Now to paint them all...

Mars Themed Lists

I originally posted this on YTTH, but thought it could go up here now.

I have been thinking about converting up a mars themed list for some time and wanted some feedback on my musings.

1 Emperor’s Champion @ 140
Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds

6 Sword Brethren Terminator Assault Squad @ 526
5 Lightning Claws, 1 TH/SS, Furious Charge
1 Land Raider Crusader
Smoke Launchers

1 Techmarine @ 399
Power Weapon, Servo-Harness, Frag Grenades, Storm Shield, Terminator Honors
1 Land Raider Crusader
Smoke Launchers

6 Sword Brethren Terminator Assault Squad @ 258
5 Lightning Claws, 1 TH/SS, Furious Charge

6 Crusader Squad @ 162
Meltagun
1 Rhino

6 Crusader Squad @ 162
Meltagun
1 Rhino

6 Crusader Squad @ 162
Meltagun
1 Rhino

1 Land Speeder @ 75
MM/HF

1 Land Speeder @ 75
MM/HF

1 Land Speeder @ 75
MM/HF

Total Roster Cost: 2000

I would convert a Techmarine to be the Emperor’s Chump, make the crusader squads skitarii type models and make the terminator size models praetorians. The speeders would be pretty effective, but I think some converted Thunderfire cannons as MM attack bikes would look even cooler.
ALTERNATIVELY, a vanilla space marine army:

1 Master of the Forge @ 115
Servo Harness; Power Sword

1 Master of the Forge @ 115
Servo Harness; Power Sword

1 Techmarine @ 85
Servo Harness; Combi-Flamer

1 Techmarine @ 85
Servo Harness; Combi-Flamer

9 Tactical Squad @ 245
Flamer; Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant
1 Razorback
Lascannon and TL Plasmagun

9 Tactical Squad @ 245
Flamer; Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant
1 Razorback
Lascannon and TL Plasmagun

9 Tactical Squad @ 245
Flamer; Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant
1 Razorback
Lascannon and TL Plasmagun

9 Tactical Squad @ 245
Flamer; Missile Launcher
1 Sergeant
1 Razorback
Lascannon and TL Plasmagun

2 Land Speeder Squadron @ 140
2 MM/2 HF

1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 90
HB/Typhoon

1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 90
HB/Typhoon

1 Thunderfire Cannon @ 100

1 Thunderfire Cannon @ 100

1 Thunderfire Cannon @ 100

Total Roster Cost: 2000

This one Marines would be Skitarii, no Praetorians, but I think a pretty huge amount of firepower in a list that is pretty themed.

Anyway, thoughts on both of the lists’ effectiveness and conversion input would be appreciated beforehand as this will be a pretty big undertaking.
Jimmy

Here was Stelek's take on how to make the TFC work:
http://yesthetruthhurts.com/2009/12/thunderfires-ho/
http://yesthetruthhurts.com/2009/04/build-request-techmarine-themed-army/

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Best of Space Marines

So you might recognize this list from Stelek. I have been running my bikes lately, but this list is crazy fun to play, and is something of a fall back army for me.

1 Master of the Forge @ 120 Pts
Artificer Armour; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Converison Beamer

1 Dreadnought @ 105 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

1 Dreadnought @ 105 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

1 Dreadnought @ 105 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

9 Tactical Squad @ 205 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta; Rhino
1 Sergeant @ [23] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
1 Rhino @ [35] Pts
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

9 Tactical Squad @ 205 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta; Rhino
1 Sergeant @ [23] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
1 Rhino @ [35] Pts
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

9 Tactical Squad @ 205 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta; Rhino
1 Sergeant @ [23] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
1 Rhino @ [35] Pts
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter

5 Scout Squad @ 163 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x5); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Scout Armour; Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle (x4); Heavy Bolter w/Hellfire Shells; Sergeant Telion
1 Sergeant Telion @ [0] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Bolt Pistol; Scout Armour; Stalker Pattern Boltgun

2 Land Speeder Squadron @ 140 Pts
Multi-Melta (x2); Heavy Flamer (x2)

2 Land Speeder Squadron @ 140 Pts
Multi-Melta (x2); Heavy Flamer (x2)

1 Predator @ 85 Pts
Autocannon; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Heavy Bolter

1 Predator @ 85 Pts
Autocannon; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Heavy Bolter

1 Predator @ 85 Pts
Autocannon; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Heavy Bolter

Total Roster Cost: 1748

2 Command Bike Squads

1 Kor'sarro Khan @ 610 Pts
Bolt Pistol; Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Moonfang; Power Armour; Moondrakkan; Command Squad
1 Moondrakkan @ [40] Pts
Space Marine Bike; TL Boltgun
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

1 Space Marine Captain @ 590 Pts
...in Power Armour; Command Squad
1 ...in Power Armour @ [180] Pts
Frag Grenades; Iron Halo; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Relic Blade (x1); Storm Shield (x1); Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
4 Command Squad @ [410] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Chainsword (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs (x3); Storm Shield (x3); Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Lightning Claw (x3); Meltagun (x3); Apothecary with Narthecium; Space Marine Bike; Company Champion
1 Apothecary with Narthecium @ [0] Pts
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Company Champion @ [55] Pts
Combat Shield; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Power Weapon; Unit on Space Marine Bikes; Storm Shield; Thunder Hammer; Meltagun; Space Marine Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun (x2); Attack Bike
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Attack Bike @ [50] Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Multi-Melta
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter
1 Sergeant @ [55] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun
1 Space Marine Bike @ [0] Pts
Twin Linked Bolter

Total Roster Cost: 2000

I am debating whether or not to run two bike command squads. This is what the list would look like if I were to take both command squads. I took Khan because the last 20 points if I took a regular captain instead just goes to digital weapons on both captains. Hit and Run and Furious Charge for one of the squads seemed better to me.